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Flower and Wasp: Good Bye!

Flower and Wasp: Good Bye!
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Copyright: Catherine Dijon (CatherineD) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 861 W: 57 N: 4006] (14097)
Genre: Plants
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2010-08-08
Categories: Insects, Flowers
Camera: Canon EOS 40 D, Canon EF 100 mm F2.8 Macro USM
Exposure: f/11, 1/160 seconds
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Photo Version: Original Version
Date Submitted: 2010-12-08 17:15
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Points: 68
[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note [French]
Its easy to write a note saying it is a beautiful flower, even an Orchid and make a copy/past of the Wikipedia page about Orchids and add some blabla about the light, the DOF, the macro lens…. I’m sure I can get points from people who are waiting for payback. In fact, I’m really tired of such hypocrisy.
This great site became more and more a photography – even a macho – contest which has nothing to do with learning about and from Nature. Posts of captive animals in zoo or with titles like “flower”, “dragonfly”, “fly” and other “beetle”, without any search for ID or behaviour show very well the contempt of nature and people.
I still have a lot of interesting photos of plants, insects and some birds to share, but for this reasons it will be my last post and note… I will be back only if TN became again a site “to learn about nature”. I’m sorry for my friends, the real Nature lovers. I will continue to watch and comment yours photos. And especially for you, below it is the real note prepared for this shot, with a very interesting phenomenon.

Junkie Wasp

I noticed the strange behaviour of this German wasp (Vespula germanica), sluggish on the flower.
Some plants may produce hallucinogenic or narcotic substances, which addict the pollinators.
It is the case for the Broad-leaved Helleborine, which produces narcotic compounds to attract potential pollinators. The presence of oxycodone, which was reported to be a semisynthetic morphinan, is of special interest here. These substances make the insects, which drink the nectar to become “sluggish”, what prolongs the time, which they spent on the inflorescence and therefore increases chance of pollinating larger number of flowers. Such a strategy is very effective if taking into consideration the fact that Epipactis helleborine flowers are not morphologically attractive to insects and that attendance of potential pollinator is dependent on habitat.

Epipactis helleborine (L.) Crantz
Family : Orchidaceae
Common names : Broad-leaved Helleborine [En], Epipactis à large feuilles, Hellébore [Fr], Brede wespenorchis [Nl], Επιπακτίς η πυκνόφυλλη [Gr], Breitblättrige Stendelwurz [De], Heleborina de hojas anchas [Es], Elleborina commune [It],

Plant arising from a fascicle of fibrous roots, 25-60 (-120) cm high; several stems may arise from the same rootstock. Leaves 3-30, puberulent, ovate-lanceolate, plicate, 3-15 cm long and 1.5-6 (-7) cm wide. Inflorescence a loosely one-sided terminal raceme of 15-30 (-50) flowers, each subtended by a lanceolate to lance-linear green foliaceous bract 2-6 cm long and 1-2 cm wide. Sepals ovate-lanceolate, 1-1.5 cm long and 5-6 mm wide, green and often suffused with pinkish-purple. Petals similar in size and appearance to the sepals. Labellum 1-1.5 cm long and 4-8 mm wide, divided into two portions by a central constriction. The part closest to the column (hypochile) bowl-shaped, purplish-brown and frequently glossy inside, greenish outside. The second part of the labellum (epichile) triangular, white, green or purplish, with a fleshy callus near the point of attachment to the hypochile.
Habitat: Epipactis grows in almost any habitat, but it is usually found under a canopy of trees. It can be common in parks and large gardens, for example in New York City parks.
Flowering time: July-August.

Jakubska A., Przando D., Steininger M., Aniol-Kwiatkowska J. and Kadej M. (2005).
Why do pollinators become “sluggish”?
Nectar chemical constituents from Epipactis helleborine (L.) Crantz (Orchidaceae). Applied Ecology and Environmental Research 3(2): 29-38.
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I completely agree with you dear! As a coincidence i posted my last post!
This is technically superb capture photographed by a real nature lover!
Simply superb!
TFS and have a nice night! Sweet dreams!


great capture, TFS Ori

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  • joska Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 806 W: 0 N: 4092] (22535)
  • [2010-12-08 22:29]

Splendid photo of this species, TFS!

Thank you very much for this interesting shot and comments. Please don't give up yet!

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  • uleko Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3396 W: 172 N: 3310] (10940)
  • [2010-12-08 23:19]
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Hello Catherine,
I think it's wrong of you to leave but it's obviously your decision.
You're obliging your 'enemies'!
A great capture of this pollinator visiting the beautiful Helleborine Orchid together with an interesting note. Excellent details and colours that stand out against ther dark green background.
TFS and all the best wishes, Ulla

A fine istance of a possible mutual symbiosis in nature captured quite candidly here Catherine, the wasp obviously enjoys its longer than usual stay on those orchid flowers and the plant has a means of ensuring being pollinated. But I don't think "narcotic" substances are the only attractants of that plant, surely its flowers superficially resemble some female bees! A superb capture MF, I really wish you to continue with TN...

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  • Argus Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5038 W: 260 N: 15594] (50626)
  • [2010-12-09 2:33]

Hello Catherine,
Your contributions to this site have been very valuable, both the subject and the high standard of photography. This fine capture of a wasp visiting and Epipactis flower is typical.
So it is with sadness I see you want to leave TN.
I don't want to say adieu: I would like to say au revoir!

Ciao Catherine. Perfect sharp, wonderful brigh colours in a lovely compo.


hello Catherine
super sharpness and good details with beautiful colours
very nice shot Catherine
greeting lou

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  • nagraj Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1618 W: 106 N: 3208] (15166)
  • [2010-12-09 6:29]

I too have noticed the insects getting disoriented after filling the nectar, this is an interesting image of this wasp almost not noticeable on these lovely orchids. As for as staying back, its your decision. tfs.

Hello Catherine another fantastic image, light, colors and details very beautiful. Another nice picture. Best regards, Paolo

Hello Catherine,
Indeed the winter is coming with low temperatures and harsh weather.
Brilliant colours and splendid details. The background is fantastic.

Bonjour Catherine,
Une décision qui a sans doute été difficile à prendre mais je ne peux que souhaiter qu'elle ne soit pas irrémédiable et que ta galerie soit toujours visiter simplement comme elle le mérite.
Tu quittes TN en beauté !!!
Je souhaite vivement te revoir prochainement sur TN.

Hi Catherine,

I am very interested in orchids, and I learned a lot from your notes.

I also read that you are the second member to say Good Bye today.

I looked in detail at your portfolio, and it is sad,you do not wish to contribute to this site having so much talent and joy to offer to TrekNature.



Hi Catherine,
Erg spijtig dat je de site gaat verlaten. Ik voel me wel aangesproken als je hebt over dieren in dierentuinen. Ik plaats inderdaad behoorlijk veel foto's uit vogelparken waarbij ik de regels hanteer dat de vogels vrij moeten kunnen rondvliegen in grote ruimtes en/of ze zeldzaam zijn en er een fokprogramma mee gehanteerd wordt, zodat de soort er mee voor uitsterven behoed wordt en/of de foto als foto de moeite waard moet zijn om naar te kijken. De laatste jaren heb ik nooit een foto geplaatst van een vogel in een hokje of kooitje. Dankzij vogelparken bestaan veel soorten nog. In het wild wordt er vaak barbaars mee omgegaan en worden ze in het wilde weg afgeschoten. Ik hoop dat je deze keerzijde ook eens wilt bekijken. Hoewel ik het met je eens ben dat vogels in de vrije natuur natuurlijk prefereren boven vogels in gevangenschap.
Over een half jaar ga ik met pensioen en heb dan veel meer tijd om de vrije natuur in trekken.
Ondanks het feit dat we elkaars foto's niet vaak becommentarieerden heb ik toch altijd bewondering voor je foto's gehad.
Ik hoop dat je op je besluit terug komt.
Vriendelijke groeten,

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  • siggi Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3097 W: 109 N: 12399] (52850)
  • [2010-12-09 13:02]

Hello Catherine.
Excellently composed pic showing brilliant lighting and hence the sharpness and great detail shown. The POV, BG and choice of subject are good too!
This place (TN) in wrong direction developed .We wanted yourselves also that our photos to become better and to learn both were best without the points. Only comments write.Best regards Siggi

bonjour Catherine

je suis triste d'apprendre le départ de TN
d'amoureux de la nature (et je dois aussi dire
amoureux de la photo nature) comme toi et Bayram,
on apprend beaucoup sur la nature à travers des
photographies comme celle-ci, tout comme Ivan
a écrit j'espère que ce n'est qu'un au revoir, TFS


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  • Adanac Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1273 W: 1 N: 6188] (21378)
  • [2010-12-09 19:41]

Dear Catherine,
I am so sorry that it has come to this, but as I said to Bayram, I totally understand your reasons. You and your wonderful nature posting will be sorrily missed in your absence. Stay well pretty lady.

Hi Catherine. Wonderful macro photo. Details and composition are wonderful. I will miss your shots.
Best regards

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  • tuslaw Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2754 W: 282 N: 4931] (19883)
  • [2010-12-12 19:23]

Hello Catherine,
I will certainly miss your photos, but much more your honest critiques. I have always felt that you were truly interested in any photo of mine that you have ever commented on.
This is a wonderful shot of not only the beautiful wasp, but also the plant that it is checking out. Exceptional detail, exposure and composition. Great work!! God bless.

Hi Catherine
A precondition to want to learn about nature is to love nature.
I think that every photo that tries to capture the beauty of nature (even without identification of the species) is a first and big step for the love of nature.
Please stay. You have a lot to give to those they will try the second step.
My smile is for your photo which as usually is excellent.

Dear Catherine,
An amazing photo of Epipactis helleborine and the wasp during pseudocopulation, it is really admirable!
I will miss your photos but I respect your decision; I hope that you will reconsider.
Kalinyxta Katerina,

Hi dear Catherine,

It's very sad both you & Bayram decided to leave (at least particularly) the site, because you always had / have so much to offer. Both photographically and in the name of "learning from nature through photography". I hope you'll fully return once.

Remarkable and pleasant shot, beautiful use of flash, excellent sharpness, DoF and colors. Perfect macro with plenty of details. Congrats and tfs.

Friendly and respectfully yours, László

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  • fiyo Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1053 W: 5 N: 3475] (15161)
  • [2010-12-16 13:59]

Merhaba Catherine.
harika renkler, keskinlik..ve kompozisyon.
Tebrik ederim, sevgilerimle..

Hi Catherine,
I'm brand new in Tn and feel so sad to read your comment. I'm also tired of forums where only "friends" comment one each other, where there is nothing to learn and nobody wants to learn and where comments such "excellent sharpness" when a photo is blurred are common.

Well, i'm studiing wild european orchids for long years and now i'm especially interested in Epipactis genus. Me and a colleague will try to come with a revision of the genus in iberian peninsula in 2-3 years. As you now is not an easy genus, there are a lot of populations to visit, lot of Km's, lot of photos and lot of neassurements and studies to carry on.

FYI i will start uploading a series of Spanish Epipactis and would be nice to have your oppinion and comments.

P.D. last year we spend some time to suck the nectar in the epipacis hipochile with a syringe and it's really tasty !!!! It tastaes like exquisite honney.


Ciao Catherine, I hope you'll soon return, my friend :), splendid composition with wonderful flowers and lovely wasp, fine details, fantastic colors and excellent sharpness, very well done, ciao Silvio

Hello Catherine,

about the same reason I want delete last my pictures also.
But so many members ask me to do not so I have taking an break for 2 weeks.
Now i am posting one or 2 or 3 in the week.
Points i have been so many times writing i don't care.
Yes I can follow you desicion to leave but it's a pity.
And yes members are expecting points, if you not give it you get no critiques.
Looks to my pictures in the summer i am writing that. 10 points or less.
Personally its a pity you leave with your beautiful photo's.

About this picture.
Nice detailed and sharp image with good pov and dof.
Fine colors and exellent blurred bg.
Yes you are an nature lover just as I am.

I wish you a Merry Christmas and healthy new year dear Cathy.

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  • Alex99 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4072 W: 133 N: 7096] (23735)
  • [2010-12-24 4:23]

Hi Catherine.
I am afflicted by your decision to suspend active participation in TN-life. Every of us has own reasons and aims to TN-participation, possibilities and aptitudes. Most of them are quite worth. Not each good TN-member can correspond to your high requirements. But your decision deprives their opportunity to see your pictures, to analyze them, to read your notes and comments.

I also see at photos DOF, composition, colours and lights, applied equipment and so on. I like to do it. It is useful for me. I say about these components of photography. May be I am not very good TN-member but I love all my friend here and their work.

My heartfelt wishes to you and your family in coming New Year, Merry Christmas and I hope to see you here again.

Catherine disappeared from the scene... why?
great double capture.... T.N. still need your important contribution..

wishes for a Merry Christmas with your family sERGIO

Hallo Catherine,
je suis et j'ai été en difficulté à commenter ta choix, que je peu partager, mais je pense que, dans le cadre d'auto-punition, ce pourrait être votre dernière photo sur TN (personnellement, je pense que votre présence est très importante pour TN).
Comme toujours, vos photographies sont magnifiques et comme toujours, vos notes sont étonnants.
Bonne soirée et bonne nuit

Fenomenal luz para este conjunto de bellezas que nos presentas.
Una foto completísima y de gran técnica, que auna dos de mis pasiones,
las flores y los insectos.
Te deseo un buen fin de año y un próspero 2011.

Un abrazo: Josep Ignasi.

Very sad....
I hope you come back soon, my friend!
This is a wonderful shot, framed beautifully!

Bonjour Catherine,
deeply touched by this very detailed and rich image showing a German wasp intensely busy on Epipactis helleborine blossoms collecting something I did not know before reading your fabulous notes. The information of orchids producing hallucinogenic sustances is something very fascinating and totally new to me. Your contribution certainly is one of the most outstanding and rare highlights on this site.
I'm also deeply with you concerning your comments on certain habits spreading on a site that was initally designed to learn about nature through photography. On the other hand, it is a necessary property of gems to be rare. And as long as gems like this posting from you can be found here it is very much worth the effort of visiting TN and contributing to it every now and then. I've been a rare guest of this site since months or even years myself, but mainly out of the reason of reducing the time I am spending in front of a computer. So I have to apologize for not having reacted to your posting any sooner. I am very grateful and glad to see it. Thanks a lot, Catherine. Hope to see you again here, sooner or later.
With all my best wishes to you,

Ben flûte... juste au moment ou j'arrive v'la que tu pars...
Tes photos sont superbes...
J'avais mis "Syrphe de Belgique" et suis tombé ici... J'ai justement un Syrphe que je cherche à identifier et aimerait avoir ton avis... http://richardunord1.skynetblogs.be/
peut-être à bientôt alors...

Hi Catherine,I didnt know this beatiful composition your last post....Hope you well and respect your decision

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  • cako Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 485 W: 0 N: 772] (3395)
  • [2012-12-19 13:23]

Exellent photo showing very good technic.
Thanks for sharing.

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